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	<title>Comments on: Libraries vs. IT Departments</title>
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		<title>By: Connie Crosby</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2008/10/15/libraries-vs-it-departments/comment-page-1/#comment-659974</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, David, there is a lot we librarians can learn from our IT departments. If we would take the time to talk with them, learn what they are doing for the whole organization rather than just talking to them about what they can do for us, we would have a much better understanding of the whole organization. Some great thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, David, there is a lot we librarians can learn from our IT departments. If we would take the time to talk with them, learn what they are doing for the whole organization rather than just talking to them about what they can do for us, we would have a much better understanding of the whole organization. Some great thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: David Whelan</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Whelan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for highlighting this podcast, Connie.  As I listened, I remembered all the times - particularly at librarian conferences - that the library/IT rift was mentioned, how often libraries advanced *despite* IT.  

I found the similarities the most interesting.  Although their perspective was academic, the shift to heavy electronic research in law practice blurs the line further between information systems and information access providers.  Since many law firms have no librarian, the comment in the podcast (paraphrased) about placing library content decisions in the purchasing department, if no-one is adding value to the content, is actually probably a fair statement of what&#039;s actually happening in most law firms.

Shauna&#039;s hit the nail on the head - it&#039;s about the relationship.  Not just whether the two departments get along, but whether they need to.  The 2008 Law Firm Inc law librarian survey indicated 18% of firm library directors report to the CIO or IT director.  I expect that placing these two groups under the same person probably makes relationship building easier.

Being in a bottom-line oriented environment probably helps as well, to orient all groups towards similar goals.  I expect that when the organization allows the library to avoid working with the IT department, the library will, even to the point of creating a parallel IT group in the library.  Not a good way to create a good bond, or be efficient.  Talk about similarities:  what about non-library units (marketing?) making their own purchases, content decisions separate from the library?  A more integrated purpose can clarify ways to work together.

Having been on both sides of these relationships, one thing that occurred to me was the problem of narrow perspective.  Librarians, like most non-IT staff, are not as well versed in technology as the IT staff.  Even when they are up on the latest tech and can talk as peers with the IT department, we don&#039;t necessarily look at it from the same perspective of how it fits into the business. 

This cuts both ways:  the IT department is not going to learn as much about libraries and our services/resources as we want.  The demands on IT are broader than those on libraries; I bet law firms without librarians still have IT staff.  We can build that mutual respect by understanding the limitations of IT, and being able to explain not just how a technology provides a service but also how it impacts the business and the IT department.  It may require us to dig much deeper into a technology than we might normally go.  It may also take us out of our comfort zone - IT &quot;isn&#039;t my job&quot; - but make us more educated consumers of IT services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for highlighting this podcast, Connie.  As I listened, I remembered all the times &#8211; particularly at librarian conferences &#8211; that the library/IT rift was mentioned, how often libraries advanced *despite* IT.  </p>
<p>I found the similarities the most interesting.  Although their perspective was academic, the shift to heavy electronic research in law practice blurs the line further between information systems and information access providers.  Since many law firms have no librarian, the comment in the podcast (paraphrased) about placing library content decisions in the purchasing department, if no-one is adding value to the content, is actually probably a fair statement of what&#039;s actually happening in most law firms.</p>
<p>Shauna&#039;s hit the nail on the head &#8211; it&#039;s about the relationship.  Not just whether the two departments get along, but whether they need to.  The 2008 Law Firm Inc law librarian survey indicated 18% of firm library directors report to the CIO or IT director.  I expect that placing these two groups under the same person probably makes relationship building easier.</p>
<p>Being in a bottom-line oriented environment probably helps as well, to orient all groups towards similar goals.  I expect that when the organization allows the library to avoid working with the IT department, the library will, even to the point of creating a parallel IT group in the library.  Not a good way to create a good bond, or be efficient.  Talk about similarities:  what about non-library units (marketing?) making their own purchases, content decisions separate from the library?  A more integrated purpose can clarify ways to work together.</p>
<p>Having been on both sides of these relationships, one thing that occurred to me was the problem of narrow perspective.  Librarians, like most non-IT staff, are not as well versed in technology as the IT staff.  Even when they are up on the latest tech and can talk as peers with the IT department, we don&#039;t necessarily look at it from the same perspective of how it fits into the business. </p>
<p>This cuts both ways:  the IT department is not going to learn as much about libraries and our services/resources as we want.  The demands on IT are broader than those on libraries; I bet law firms without librarians still have IT staff.  We can build that mutual respect by understanding the limitations of IT, and being able to explain not just how a technology provides a service but also how it impacts the business and the IT department.  It may require us to dig much deeper into a technology than we might normally go.  It may also take us out of our comfort zone &#8211; IT &#034;isn&#039;t my job&#034; &#8211; but make us more educated consumers of IT services.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie Crosby</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2008/10/15/libraries-vs-it-departments/comment-page-1/#comment-659347</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make some good points. I seemed to always have good relationships with IT folks I have worked with. Part of it was because I am a geek girl at heart and always think they are cool, and am genuinely interested in what they are doing. But I know that is not everyone.

As you have implied, Shaunna, mutual respect is key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some good points. I seemed to always have good relationships with IT folks I have worked with. Part of it was because I am a geek girl at heart and always think they are cool, and am genuinely interested in what they are doing. But I know that is not everyone.</p>
<p>As you have implied, Shaunna, mutual respect is key.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaunna Mireau</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2008/10/15/libraries-vs-it-departments/comment-page-1/#comment-659186</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaunna Mireau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that regular face to face communication (beverages optional) is very important to facilitating an excellent working relationship of any type - most especially between Libraries and IT departments.  

I expect that the &quot;I am too busy to explain this to those folks&quot; or an &quot;I can do it myself&quot; attitude could be the root of many conflicts.

I am very happy to report that an excellent team relationship &lt;strong&gt;can&lt;/strong&gt; be built between a busy library and a busy IT department in an organization.

Like marriage, it just takes constant work, and flowers and candy never hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that regular face to face communication (beverages optional) is very important to facilitating an excellent working relationship of any type &#8211; most especially between Libraries and IT departments.  </p>
<p>I expect that the &#034;I am too busy to explain this to those folks&#034; or an &#034;I can do it myself&#034; attitude could be the root of many conflicts.</p>
<p>I am very happy to report that an excellent team relationship <strong>can</strong> be built between a busy library and a busy IT department in an organization.</p>
<p>Like marriage, it just takes constant work, and flowers and candy never hurt.</p>
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