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	<title>Comments on: Tackling Impaired Driving&#8230;By Decriminalizing It.</title>
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		<title>By: LifeAfter</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2010/03/25/tackling-impaired-driving-by-decriminalizing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-734197</link>
		<dc:creator>LifeAfter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 20:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just recently charged with impaired driving and really didn&#039;t understand the consequences previously. I just didn&#039;t really think about them. My life has changed.

In doing some research, I came across this post and it&#039;s a very interesting proposal.

Many years ago, I worked in law enforcement and after much thought, I came to the conclusion that a lot of things, especially drugs, should be decriminalized and managed differently. Of course, many thought I was crazy at the time - but now there is even LEAP - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition with many members who see the downside of criminalizing so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just recently charged with impaired driving and really didn&#039;t understand the consequences previously. I just didn&#039;t really think about them. My life has changed.</p>
<p>In doing some research, I came across this post and it&#039;s a very interesting proposal.</p>
<p>Many years ago, I worked in law enforcement and after much thought, I came to the conclusion that a lot of things, especially drugs, should be decriminalized and managed differently. Of course, many thought I was crazy at the time &#8211; but now there is even LEAP &#8211; Law Enforcement Against Prohibition with many members who see the downside of criminalizing so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaunna Mireau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaunna Mireau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very thought provoking.  

I wonder if there have ever been justice statistics collected that would support this theory: The typical clients you describe above who have gone through a successful defence to a DUI charge never drink and drive again.

I think it would be a pretty hard go for a government (especially one following this current &quot;mandatory minimum sentence/throw everyone(except-a-buddy-of-ours) in the slammer/there is only black and white not grey blue pink yellow or orange&quot; minority) to convince a population that decriminalizing DUI except in the case where it leads to  measurable harm to person or property is a good idea.

Just because it would be difficult to explain and promote doesn&#039;t mean that it isn&#039;t the best solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very thought provoking.  </p>
<p>I wonder if there have ever been justice statistics collected that would support this theory: The typical clients you describe above who have gone through a successful defence to a DUI charge never drink and drive again.</p>
<p>I think it would be a pretty hard go for a government (especially one following this current &#034;mandatory minimum sentence/throw everyone(except-a-buddy-of-ours) in the slammer/there is only black and white not grey blue pink yellow or orange&#034; minority) to convince a population that decriminalizing DUI except in the case where it leads to  measurable harm to person or property is a good idea.</p>
<p>Just because it would be difficult to explain and promote doesn&#039;t mean that it isn&#039;t the best solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for thinking of this approach and being brave enough to have it published.  It is indeed thought-provoking and reasonable.  I would ask whether you might consider running for office, but you appear over-qualified.  Pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for thinking of this approach and being brave enough to have it published.  It is indeed thought-provoking and reasonable.  I would ask whether you might consider running for office, but you appear over-qualified.  Pity.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Manevich</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2010/03/25/tackling-impaired-driving-by-decriminalizing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-729550</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Manevich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A most provocative essay, Edward.  Thanks for writing it.

John&#039;s comment raises an interesting point. Why does Ontario not amend the &lt;em&gt;Highway Traffic Act&lt;/em&gt; as Edward suggests, even in the absence of a parallel federal move to amend the &lt;em&gt;Criminal Code&lt;/em&gt;? Edward points out that in the absence of a strong criminal case, Crown prosecutors sometimes opt to negotiate a plea bargain to a &lt;em&gt;Highway Traffic Act&lt;/em&gt; offence instead. Might not such plea bargains be more common were there tougher penalties available under that act, such that the accused doesn&#039;t appear to be \pulling a Jaffer\, as Edward described it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A most provocative essay, Edward.  Thanks for writing it.</p>
<p>John&#039;s comment raises an interesting point. Why does Ontario not amend the <em>Highway Traffic Act</em> as Edward suggests, even in the absence of a parallel federal move to amend the <em>Criminal Code</em>? Edward points out that in the absence of a strong criminal case, Crown prosecutors sometimes opt to negotiate a plea bargain to a <em>Highway Traffic Act</em> offence instead. Might not such plea bargains be more common were there tougher penalties available under that act, such that the accused doesn&#039;t appear to be \pulling a Jaffer\, as Edward described it?</p>
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		<title>By: John G</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2010/03/25/tackling-impaired-driving-by-decriminalizing-it/comment-page-1/#comment-729539</link>
		<dc:creator>John G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of sense here, but the government currently in charge of the Criminal Code never met a human failing it didn&#039;t want to punish, and it &lt;strong&gt;loves&lt;/strong&gt; mandatory minimum sentences. Combine the general viciousness of the government with the cries of unsubtle outrage by those who think the proposals would be soft on the drivers (because they might be allowed to hope for a normal life at some future point, rather than having the criminal record with them forever), I would not bet much money on the proposals being adopted.

I suppose if our prison system becomes as chock-full as California&#039;s - and the feds seem to have that ambition - then maybe budget pressures might lead, here as apparently there, to common sense pushing its way through the concrete walls...

Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of sense here, but the government currently in charge of the Criminal Code never met a human failing it didn&#039;t want to punish, and it <strong>loves</strong> mandatory minimum sentences. Combine the general viciousness of the government with the cries of unsubtle outrage by those who think the proposals would be soft on the drivers (because they might be allowed to hope for a normal life at some future point, rather than having the criminal record with them forever), I would not bet much money on the proposals being adopted.</p>
<p>I suppose if our prison system becomes as chock-full as California&#039;s &#8211; and the feds seem to have that ambition &#8211; then maybe budget pressures might lead, here as apparently there, to common sense pushing its way through the concrete walls&#8230;</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Magraken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Magraken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting viewpoint.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll get a reaction.

In the years I practiced criminal defence law (those days are behind me now with my PI practice my only contact with impaired drivers is when I sue them...) I can share your view of the general demographic of impaired driving clients and further their motivation to hire a lawyer.  If the threat of a criminal record was replaced with a strictly regulatory-offence type of a conviction that would surely reduce the number of folks fighting the charges.

I look forward to the discussion your post will trigger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting viewpoint.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll get a reaction.</p>
<p>In the years I practiced criminal defence law (those days are behind me now with my PI practice my only contact with impaired drivers is when I sue them&#8230;) I can share your view of the general demographic of impaired driving clients and further their motivation to hire a lawyer.  If the threat of a criminal record was replaced with a strictly regulatory-offence type of a conviction that would surely reduce the number of folks fighting the charges.</p>
<p>I look forward to the discussion your post will trigger.</p>
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